There are many variations on how you could get this to work. Answer: Your question prompts me to ask a question. The door keeps slamming and I cant figure out how to access the mechanism to adjust it. Question: MY door closer will not fully close the door.
It does come in a sprayed brass finish. If the door swings well and there is no air pressure problem, it sounds to me like the arm may not be installed correctly, or perhaps the closer is not installed correctly. Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on April 17, 2012: I think you can have your cake and eat it, too, if you use an LCN 4011T to close the door and an electromagnetic hold open with a timer. Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on January 05, 2012: Many closers have a tension adjustment and many do not.
The door has a changeable screen/glass option that takes up about 80% of the face of the door. I would venture to say that the fact of the noise being loud is not a good sign, and points to the possibility that it has been adjusted to do something it was not designed to do.
Saw the comment on hollow wooden door but thought there might be some simple solutions ( or not so simple ) to metal doors as well. Can you show me a picture?
What is this number for. If you are mounting the closer on the pull side of the door, having a reveal that is several inches deep is a problem.
Then you will be able to open the door wider.
Since I need both these features, can I use both devices?
Please see Terms and Conditions for our complete shipping policy before placing your order. It would be helpful to know whether these closers are installed on the push side or the pull side, but I think, because of the apparent force that is being exerted on the mounting screws, that they are probably mounted on the push side and are therefore in a parallel arm configuration.
Tom- nice site! I hope this helps solve the mystery of the numbers you are seeing on a closer. Dorma's instruction sheet on this install actually has almost no words on it and does not say to what degree the door will open when this closer is mounted according to the instructions. If the closers are mounted in a parallel arm, when the arm is extended until it stops it will, in effect, pull on the closer body. Best follow them, be it a parallel arm, standard or top jamb install.
Disc-shaped damper gently closes lid without slamming shut. Narrow profile for unobtrusive installation. Suitable for food service environments. Successfully passed 30,000 open/close private cycle test Sugatsune YMC MINI-DOOR CLOSER WITH DAMPER HubPages is a registered trademark of The Arena Platform, Inc. Other product and company names shown may be trademarks of their respective owners.
If you are unsure what kind of closer will best suit your application, your hardware professional can suggest one based on the information above. Question: Why would my door closer device be making a loud whirring noise? just looked at the norton 78 b/f closer. I've tried to include a link here, I hope it works. in, Surface Mounted Door Damper (Controls final 15 degress of Closing) - White. I have tried adjusting it, but no adjustment works. You should be able to search these model numbers online and find examples of what I am talking about. Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on April 03, 2015: If your LCN is one of the models with adjustable spring tension you can adjust it down all the way, and that will reduce, but not eliminate the closing action. On a couple of jobs I found that no exterior hardware would help because the door was used so often, and because the door was so flimsy, the reinforcements I used tended to compress the door like peanut butter in a sandwich and things just would not work right. Fastener Type: 4 X 45, 3.5 X 15 mm Self tapping screw, Quiver Enterprises LLC 416 Carrie Lynn Avenue Algoma, WI 54201, Quiver Enterprises LLC
Then from the door closer's point of view it will act like a right hand door. I think I will leave drawing this fanciful arrangement up to someone more qualified, like a mechanical engineer. Correct?
Jess the door closer doctor on September 30, 2016: If the stack pressure cannot be adjusted so the doors will close, it may be a good idea to use a power operator that has powered closing by means of an electric motor instead of a closer, On wednesday I came accross a tough to open door at a diner, they had the pressure negatively set, hard to open outer door and a barely closing inner door, my friend whom I was driving with pointed it out to me and I toldnmy observations and flagged down a waitress in hopes she will get owner to turn the HVAC down so its easier to open the door (I may not be in need of a wheelchair but the strong to open door was at top of a ramp). I am interested in putting in something other than the two Pneumatic closers that have been on it.
People have gone to extremes to try to conquer the problem you are doing, including using two closers on the same door (not something I recommend). :).
Not sure how to fix it. The closer is only 4 years old with minimal use. I have an applications book for LCN/Glynn Johnson, but you might cut to the chase and phone LCN or Rixson tech support and ask them what their solution is. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE! Door closer to be mounted on the push or pull side? Will Jenkins http://www.callahandoors.com/products-services/com Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on October 07, 2013: Hmm, not sure.
It could be that you you have the screw but not the washer. Why or how did this happen?? For an interior door this pressure should be 5 lbs or less and for an exterior door it should be 8.5 lbs. To have true back check, the closer would need to be hydraulic.
If it is the former problem, then you can either extend the rod as you suggest (weakening the arm) or put a 1 inch thick shim on the door to make up for the shortage (lame and ugly). As a result, we cannot show you the price in catalog or the product page.
I need to buy a door closer and found this site, http://www.qualifiedhardware.com/door-closers-82/. Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on March 05, 2015: Thank you, Jess. I have found plenty of explanations of they certain 'types' of closers now but still am uncertain what type would be ideal for this type of residential entryway.
Good luck on your hardware adventure. Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on December 28, 2011: Yes you can use an overhead stop and a door closer on the same door.
$56.95, Double click on above image to view full picture, Surface mounted door damper that will pull and close the door when engaged. Track closers generally are generally somewhat less powerful than their cousins that have traditional arms. This arm is pictured above. Hi Tom, was doing some adjusting on my auto door closer when the self drilling screws had pulled out of the hollow metal door that it's used on. I only felt a little foolish because here I am in the business for over 30 years, installing and selling LCN 4041's the whole time, and I never knew about the Backcheck Selection Valve! A door closer is a spring-loaded hydraulic device that closes a door automatically. I'll be back.
In order to make the installation, the installer must reinforce the door. Hey Tom which is more durable in high traffic areas like apt doors spring loaded hinges or auto door closer and why thanks.
Unobtrusive design : damper unit is only 20 mm high, easily fits most door frames.
It is used to provide a surface to which you can attach the door closer when the surface of the door is too narrow to do so.
You add a lot to my writing about door closers. Is this reveal on the pull side? What if the wood door is hollow? Since casings are usually connected at the corner miters with nails to pull them together and make the seams tidy, it is not a surprise that the side molding should also be pulled off.
The door frame is only visible down each side.
It swings both ways kind of like a door you would see at a diner where you don't need to use your hands at all. If it were held open for several decades, it might have some effect. A surface-mounting, soft-closing mechanism for free swinging interior doors using Lapcon technology - passed over 100,000 open/close private cycle tests. We just installed our door closers now. It needs to be adjusted to allow a minimum 3 second sweep from 70 degrees to 3 inches from latching. My initial research has not revealed to me whether your door closer is handed or not, but if it is, you cannot take a right hand closer and put it on a left hand door. Width : Max. The screw that connects the door frame to the actual hinge broke off.
Sugatsune LDD-S-L/DBR: Surface Mount Door Damper (left) in Dark Brown finish. The most common way to deal with stop/closer conflict is to use a concealed overhead stop with a surface closer. It is likely you have a floor closer since they are a popular solution for all glass doors.
i got finished reading your new hub dedicated to the LCN BCS valve, i am sorry if i made you feel dumb or embarrassed about the knowledge about what the valve does, being your a locksmith. I didn't realize until I was nearly finished with installing it that I needed a longer connecting rod for the top jamb installation I'm doing. Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on April 04, 2018: I do not know of a manual way to do this. even though to many the instruction on the "barrel" (called the spring tube) shows the steps "if" with diagram of the 6 hole mounting plate and "then" showing the valve screwed in. the instructions that came with my 4040XP, is the SAME installation sheet sent out with 4041's. Use the directions to find out if the door opener has been installed in the correct location on the door. Not shown are surface mounted track closers which use a single arm and a slide track instead of the double lever arm shown in the pictures at right. It is similar to the "Surface mounted closer, standard mount" that you posted above.
Right hand version shown (viewing the door from the opening side, hinges are on the right. These functions are discussed below in the section titled "Arms.".
Secondly it overcomes any stack pressure due to air conditioning. Could you recommend a door closer that will work with this setup? The door is a heavy, solid, wooden door with a deep reveal of about 4". http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_SPM332128 Tom, I'm trying to switch a right-hand open parallel arm closer to the left-hand open door but I think I need to switch the arm around somehow to make it work.
Answer: When a decorative molding makes door closer installation challenging, you can 1) use parallel arm installation on the push side of the door, or 2) if the molding is made of wood, cut into the decorative molding on the header to make a flat place to install the shoe. If this clicking is faint and happening as you are opening the door (and it is NOT the arm screw) it may be the one-way check valve ball in the piston of the closer allowing fluid to pass through, the noise may be loud in some closers but it should not effect dampening effect. I have a glass door with a metal casing on the bottom only. Currently I have a Universal Hardware UH4031, which is brand new, and it is giving me the same issues as the one I replaced. I work in a medical clinic and we have a spring loaded door that leads into our nurses area that is a bit problematic. While they are designed to operate quietly, they usually have an electric motor and drive apparatus that certainly have the potential to make a whirring sound. Question: Does having a door closer propped open and under constant tension effect it? Did not know the door was hollow till we drilled it.. Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on November 19, 2014: I think that the most effective remedy, although it would be expensive and would require expertise, would be to remove the double acting spring hinges and install overhead concealed or floor closers that are center hung and double acting. An example of a concealed-in-door closer is the LCN 3130 series. I recently bought a Hager 5400 series closer based on no knowledge of door closer installation. I've told them before but they replied "both our handyman and the fire department inspection just happened 1 hour ago and it passed. I adjusted the swing speed to be very slow, and the latch speed to be very fast. Please contact us at. Was the arm installed correctly, or was it installed in such a way as to get more power out of the closer than it was designed to have? How would I do that? Pictures of the different types of door closers are shown in the sections following. I was often faced with challenging situations like these when I worked in the field. My question is, can I just buy a small headless bolt and coupler to extend the arm myself? Sure, they both close the door, but spring hinges slam the door, whereas door closers are designed to close the door slowly and quietly.
Can door stoppers be fixed for the doors fitted with hydraulic door closures, I'm a condo owner in a 72 unit complex. Sugatsune LADH LIFT-ASSIST DAMPER (Heavy Duty) i too when i was in 8th grae i seen more and more of the dark gray 4040's (FP fluid years) off their doors getting rebuilt, i once asked one of the repairer's what the mystery valve was, i was told "thats a valve" not telling me much of what it DID, high school years is when i started seeing more of the 4041's with the graphical spring tube label adjustment instructions and figured out what the BCS valve did, (BCS= my shorthand for BackCheck Selection). If it pushes to the right, it's a right hand door. The door is made of aluminum and I would say it's heavy, like most newer houses have, with a thickness of maybe 2". If you can download the manufacturer's install instructions, you can check the mounting hole locations and see if they are right. They are usually nailed on with small finish nails. (Note: You can also check out my related article on Door Closer Adjustment.). Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on July 23, 2011: It depends on the type of closer you have. Your answers are always on target. Thank you. Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on April 29, 2012: The Touch n' Hold by Greenstar is a heavy duty screen door closer, but it does not offer back check.
And will that affect the ability for the door to close as intended? Please be aware that due to COVID-19, orders from some manufacturers may be delayed. One can either improvise or compromise. Unobtrusive This being a residential install for our home. But from your description, I believe what you have is less a door closer than it is a door opener.
I very much appreciate your knowledge. At the bottom of the column of pictures of door closer arms is a drawing of an LCN 4040XP door closer from the LCN catalog, parallel arm mount, on a plate that is called a "drop plate." How does one determine whether a right or left closer is needed? It seems like they would occupy the same area at the top of the door, yet I want something to pull the door shut, (the closer), and something to keep an open door from getting caught up in the wind, (an overhead stop). Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on April 13, 2015: Hi Dale. Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on July 23, 2010: The site you link to carries top line door closers. Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on February 20, 2012: Not sure what you're referring to, Jeff, but I will say that the 4041 (now the 4040XP) comes with great directions. The problem is that it will swing quite abruptly and one of our nurses got her finger pinched.
Sugatsune LDD-S-L/DBR: Surface Mount Door Damper (left) - Dark Brown, Sugatsune LDD-S-L/LBR: Surface Mount Door Damper (left) - Light Brown, Sugatsune LDD-S-L/LGR: Surface Mount Door Damper (left) - Light Grey, Sugatsune LDD-S-R/DBR: Surface Mount Door Damper (right) - Dark Brown, Sugatsune LDD-V100-DBR-L: Heavy Duty Mortise Mount Door Damper (left) - Dark Brown, Sugatsune LDD-V100-DBR-R: Heavy Duty Mortise Mount Door Damper (right) - Dark Brown, Sugatsune LDD-S-L/WT: Surface Mount Door Damper (left) - White, Sugatsune LDD-S-R/WT: Surface Mount Door Damper (right) - White, Sugatsune LDD-V-L: Mortise-Mount Door Damper (left) - Steel/Plastic, Sugatsune LDD-S-R/LBR: Surface Mount Door Damper (right) - Light Brown, Sugatsune LDD-V-R: Mortise-Mount Door Damper (right) - Steel/Plastic, Sugatsune LDD-S-R/LGR: Surface Mount Door Damper (right) - Light Grey, Sugatsune Mini Door Closer with Damper Left, Sugatsune Lapcon technology grips doors for the last 15 degrees and soft-closes, Damper can be adjusted for door weight afterr installation. I've seen i rare cases that the internal closer spring breaks in such a way as to jam up the closer so that the door cannot be opened except by using excessive force. (no idea why i have not been offered a job working at Norton or LCN, but about every locksmith (on the internet) that i have communicated with and even people at IRST (ingersoll rand security technologies) have told me about visiting the LCN plant to watch closers be made or even take a course in them. 1-800-421-2002, Regular Price: I kept thinking everyone was talking about the backcheck valve. Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on December 08, 2011: Closers are handed the same as doors. In older buildings, I have run into unique situations that prevent any kind of satisfactory install.
Passed 100,000 open/close private cycle testConcealed TypeConcealed type that is hidden from view when door is closed.Self and soft-closes within a 10 radius of closing.
If your door is, for example, a 30 inch door and you have a door closer designed for a 36 to 42 inch door, you may find your door difficult to open.
It does come in a sprayed brass finish. If the door swings well and there is no air pressure problem, it sounds to me like the arm may not be installed correctly, or perhaps the closer is not installed correctly. Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on April 17, 2012: I think you can have your cake and eat it, too, if you use an LCN 4011T to close the door and an electromagnetic hold open with a timer. Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on January 05, 2012: Many closers have a tension adjustment and many do not.
The door has a changeable screen/glass option that takes up about 80% of the face of the door. I would venture to say that the fact of the noise being loud is not a good sign, and points to the possibility that it has been adjusted to do something it was not designed to do.
Saw the comment on hollow wooden door but thought there might be some simple solutions ( or not so simple ) to metal doors as well. Can you show me a picture?
What is this number for. If you are mounting the closer on the pull side of the door, having a reveal that is several inches deep is a problem.
Then you will be able to open the door wider.
Since I need both these features, can I use both devices?
Please see Terms and Conditions for our complete shipping policy before placing your order. It would be helpful to know whether these closers are installed on the push side or the pull side, but I think, because of the apparent force that is being exerted on the mounting screws, that they are probably mounted on the push side and are therefore in a parallel arm configuration. Tom- nice site! I hope this helps solve the mystery of the numbers you are seeing on a closer. Dorma's instruction sheet on this install actually has almost no words on it and does not say to what degree the door will open when this closer is mounted according to the instructions. If the closers are mounted in a parallel arm, when the arm is extended until it stops it will, in effect, pull on the closer body. Best follow them, be it a parallel arm, standard or top jamb install.
Disc-shaped damper gently closes lid without slamming shut. Narrow profile for unobtrusive installation. Suitable for food service environments. Successfully passed 30,000 open/close private cycle test Sugatsune YMC MINI-DOOR CLOSER WITH DAMPER HubPages is a registered trademark of The Arena Platform, Inc. Other product and company names shown may be trademarks of their respective owners.
If you are unsure what kind of closer will best suit your application, your hardware professional can suggest one based on the information above. Question: Why would my door closer device be making a loud whirring noise? just looked at the norton 78 b/f closer. I've tried to include a link here, I hope it works. in, Surface Mounted Door Damper (Controls final 15 degress of Closing) - White. I have tried adjusting it, but no adjustment works. You should be able to search these model numbers online and find examples of what I am talking about. Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on April 03, 2015: If your LCN is one of the models with adjustable spring tension you can adjust it down all the way, and that will reduce, but not eliminate the closing action. On a couple of jobs I found that no exterior hardware would help because the door was used so often, and because the door was so flimsy, the reinforcements I used tended to compress the door like peanut butter in a sandwich and things just would not work right. Fastener Type: 4 X 45, 3.5 X 15 mm Self tapping screw, Quiver Enterprises LLC 416 Carrie Lynn Avenue Algoma, WI 54201, Quiver Enterprises LLC
Then from the door closer's point of view it will act like a right hand door. I think I will leave drawing this fanciful arrangement up to someone more qualified, like a mechanical engineer. Correct?
Jess the door closer doctor on September 30, 2016: If the stack pressure cannot be adjusted so the doors will close, it may be a good idea to use a power operator that has powered closing by means of an electric motor instead of a closer, On wednesday I came accross a tough to open door at a diner, they had the pressure negatively set, hard to open outer door and a barely closing inner door, my friend whom I was driving with pointed it out to me and I toldnmy observations and flagged down a waitress in hopes she will get owner to turn the HVAC down so its easier to open the door (I may not be in need of a wheelchair but the strong to open door was at top of a ramp). I am interested in putting in something other than the two Pneumatic closers that have been on it.
People have gone to extremes to try to conquer the problem you are doing, including using two closers on the same door (not something I recommend). :).
Not sure how to fix it. The closer is only 4 years old with minimal use. I have an applications book for LCN/Glynn Johnson, but you might cut to the chase and phone LCN or Rixson tech support and ask them what their solution is. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE! Door closer to be mounted on the push or pull side? Will Jenkins http://www.callahandoors.com/products-services/com Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on October 07, 2013: Hmm, not sure.
It could be that you you have the screw but not the washer. Why or how did this happen?? For an interior door this pressure should be 5 lbs or less and for an exterior door it should be 8.5 lbs. To have true back check, the closer would need to be hydraulic.
If it is the former problem, then you can either extend the rod as you suggest (weakening the arm) or put a 1 inch thick shim on the door to make up for the shortage (lame and ugly). As a result, we cannot show you the price in catalog or the product page. I need to buy a door closer and found this site, http://www.qualifiedhardware.com/door-closers-82/. Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on March 05, 2015: Thank you, Jess. I have found plenty of explanations of they certain 'types' of closers now but still am uncertain what type would be ideal for this type of residential entryway.
Good luck on your hardware adventure. Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on December 28, 2011: Yes you can use an overhead stop and a door closer on the same door.
$56.95, Double click on above image to view full picture, Surface mounted door damper that will pull and close the door when engaged. Track closers generally are generally somewhat less powerful than their cousins that have traditional arms. This arm is pictured above. Hi Tom, was doing some adjusting on my auto door closer when the self drilling screws had pulled out of the hollow metal door that it's used on. I only felt a little foolish because here I am in the business for over 30 years, installing and selling LCN 4041's the whole time, and I never knew about the Backcheck Selection Valve! A door closer is a spring-loaded hydraulic device that closes a door automatically. I'll be back.
In order to make the installation, the installer must reinforce the door. Hey Tom which is more durable in high traffic areas like apt doors spring loaded hinges or auto door closer and why thanks.
Unobtrusive design : damper unit is only 20 mm high, easily fits most door frames.
It is used to provide a surface to which you can attach the door closer when the surface of the door is too narrow to do so.
You add a lot to my writing about door closers. Is this reveal on the pull side? What if the wood door is hollow? Since casings are usually connected at the corner miters with nails to pull them together and make the seams tidy, it is not a surprise that the side molding should also be pulled off.
The door frame is only visible down each side.
It swings both ways kind of like a door you would see at a diner where you don't need to use your hands at all. If it were held open for several decades, it might have some effect. A surface-mounting, soft-closing mechanism for free swinging interior doors using Lapcon technology - passed over 100,000 open/close private cycle tests. We just installed our door closers now. It needs to be adjusted to allow a minimum 3 second sweep from 70 degrees to 3 inches from latching. My initial research has not revealed to me whether your door closer is handed or not, but if it is, you cannot take a right hand closer and put it on a left hand door. Width : Max. The screw that connects the door frame to the actual hinge broke off.
Sugatsune LDD-S-L/DBR: Surface Mount Door Damper (left) in Dark Brown finish. The most common way to deal with stop/closer conflict is to use a concealed overhead stop with a surface closer. It is likely you have a floor closer since they are a popular solution for all glass doors.
i got finished reading your new hub dedicated to the LCN BCS valve, i am sorry if i made you feel dumb or embarrassed about the knowledge about what the valve does, being your a locksmith. I didn't realize until I was nearly finished with installing it that I needed a longer connecting rod for the top jamb installation I'm doing. Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on April 04, 2018: I do not know of a manual way to do this. even though to many the instruction on the "barrel" (called the spring tube) shows the steps "if" with diagram of the 6 hole mounting plate and "then" showing the valve screwed in. the instructions that came with my 4040XP, is the SAME installation sheet sent out with 4041's. Use the directions to find out if the door opener has been installed in the correct location on the door. Not shown are surface mounted track closers which use a single arm and a slide track instead of the double lever arm shown in the pictures at right. It is similar to the "Surface mounted closer, standard mount" that you posted above.
Right hand version shown (viewing the door from the opening side, hinges are on the right. These functions are discussed below in the section titled "Arms.".
Secondly it overcomes any stack pressure due to air conditioning. Could you recommend a door closer that will work with this setup? The door is a heavy, solid, wooden door with a deep reveal of about 4". http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_SPM332128 Tom, I'm trying to switch a right-hand open parallel arm closer to the left-hand open door but I think I need to switch the arm around somehow to make it work.
Answer: When a decorative molding makes door closer installation challenging, you can 1) use parallel arm installation on the push side of the door, or 2) if the molding is made of wood, cut into the decorative molding on the header to make a flat place to install the shoe. If this clicking is faint and happening as you are opening the door (and it is NOT the arm screw) it may be the one-way check valve ball in the piston of the closer allowing fluid to pass through, the noise may be loud in some closers but it should not effect dampening effect. I have a glass door with a metal casing on the bottom only. Currently I have a Universal Hardware UH4031, which is brand new, and it is giving me the same issues as the one I replaced. I work in a medical clinic and we have a spring loaded door that leads into our nurses area that is a bit problematic. While they are designed to operate quietly, they usually have an electric motor and drive apparatus that certainly have the potential to make a whirring sound. Question: Does having a door closer propped open and under constant tension effect it? Did not know the door was hollow till we drilled it.. Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on November 19, 2014: I think that the most effective remedy, although it would be expensive and would require expertise, would be to remove the double acting spring hinges and install overhead concealed or floor closers that are center hung and double acting. An example of a concealed-in-door closer is the LCN 3130 series. I recently bought a Hager 5400 series closer based on no knowledge of door closer installation. I've told them before but they replied "both our handyman and the fire department inspection just happened 1 hour ago and it passed. I adjusted the swing speed to be very slow, and the latch speed to be very fast. Please contact us at. Was the arm installed correctly, or was it installed in such a way as to get more power out of the closer than it was designed to have? How would I do that? Pictures of the different types of door closers are shown in the sections following. I was often faced with challenging situations like these when I worked in the field. My question is, can I just buy a small headless bolt and coupler to extend the arm myself? Sure, they both close the door, but spring hinges slam the door, whereas door closers are designed to close the door slowly and quietly.
Can door stoppers be fixed for the doors fitted with hydraulic door closures, I'm a condo owner in a 72 unit complex. Sugatsune LADH LIFT-ASSIST DAMPER (Heavy Duty) i too when i was in 8th grae i seen more and more of the dark gray 4040's (FP fluid years) off their doors getting rebuilt, i once asked one of the repairer's what the mystery valve was, i was told "thats a valve" not telling me much of what it DID, high school years is when i started seeing more of the 4041's with the graphical spring tube label adjustment instructions and figured out what the BCS valve did, (BCS= my shorthand for BackCheck Selection). If it pushes to the right, it's a right hand door. The door is made of aluminum and I would say it's heavy, like most newer houses have, with a thickness of maybe 2". If you can download the manufacturer's install instructions, you can check the mounting hole locations and see if they are right. They are usually nailed on with small finish nails. (Note: You can also check out my related article on Door Closer Adjustment.). Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on July 23, 2011: It depends on the type of closer you have. Your answers are always on target. Thank you. Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on April 29, 2012: The Touch n' Hold by Greenstar is a heavy duty screen door closer, but it does not offer back check.
And will that affect the ability for the door to close as intended? Please be aware that due to COVID-19, orders from some manufacturers may be delayed. One can either improvise or compromise. Unobtrusive This being a residential install for our home. But from your description, I believe what you have is less a door closer than it is a door opener.
I very much appreciate your knowledge. At the bottom of the column of pictures of door closer arms is a drawing of an LCN 4040XP door closer from the LCN catalog, parallel arm mount, on a plate that is called a "drop plate." How does one determine whether a right or left closer is needed? It seems like they would occupy the same area at the top of the door, yet I want something to pull the door shut, (the closer), and something to keep an open door from getting caught up in the wind, (an overhead stop). Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on April 13, 2015: Hi Dale. Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on July 23, 2010: The site you link to carries top line door closers. Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on February 20, 2012: Not sure what you're referring to, Jeff, but I will say that the 4041 (now the 4040XP) comes with great directions. The problem is that it will swing quite abruptly and one of our nurses got her finger pinched.
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Passed 100,000 open/close private cycle testConcealed TypeConcealed type that is hidden from view when door is closed.Self and soft-closes within a 10 radius of closing.
If your door is, for example, a 30 inch door and you have a door closer designed for a 36 to 42 inch door, you may find your door difficult to open.