Make sure that hose is completely under water.
For instructions on replacing this seal click. ds1 - If you have a leak between the impeller and motor, you probably have a bad motor shaft seal. Posted: 8/2/2014, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. My question is how best do I separate my old leaking shaft seal (and impeller) from its metal bracket/motor mount. I have a call into the motor rep. I'm ordering parts to replace an impeller on its way out for a Hayward Max Flo II, I'm not sure which diffuser gasket to order. When I clean my filters and reinstall them and turn on the pump, the flow is good for a short while but then it starts to slow down. It should snap off easily and expose the impeller. I ended up with 3 metal gaskets that I don't know where they belong and cannot find them on the schematic and still have no prime. Privacy, Fine My keyed shaft CK1102 motor just died and I am replacing it, but a tech at a local pool store tells me that the pump & impeller are still in great shape and do not need replacing. If something is jammed inside, you may have another issue. At the impeller end, twist off the impeller counterclockwise. impeller - I don't know why the impeller is able to spin both ways when you are holding the shaft and keeping it from rotating. Posted: 4/29/2016, danny Your pump should maintain prime. I was wondering if the pump could be losing flow when the back pressure in the filter starts to increase due to problem with the impeller. It sounds like the old metal collar did not come off with the old shaft seal. If you water was dirty and you ran that water through the filter, the filter may need to be cleaned several times to clear the fine debris out of the filter. How would touching the ceramic bearing surfaces corrode them? Posted: 5/10/2013, Anonymous
Posted: 12/18/2014, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R.
Replace cover and secure with two screws. Could this be the problem? I have all new seals ready to go and I've removed the impeller and pump from the dead motor, now I want to ensure I separate these two parts without damaging either. 0 Push the half of the seal that you just removed onto the new impeller. Check the top of the basket cavity to make sure it has not cracked from over tightening. Try prying the motor out gently.
So, if you purchased a 1 HP full rate impeller but installed a 1 HP uprate motor, your motor has a max total HP output of 1.25, and the impeller is a total HP of 1.65. Try disconnecting all hoses except the one coming out of the skimmer. Is it necessary to pry the motor away? If pump has 6 bolts, replace bolts in this sequence - 1, 3, 5, 2, 4, 6. The pump doesn't seam to have the suction power when the vacuum is connected. Replaced my shaft seal but now when I start the pump it tightens up so much on the impeller it locks up. Inspect the diffuser gasket for wear. I would take the motor out of the pump housing per the above instructions. After reinstalling hoses and pipes, there is a leak between the motor and impeller.
And it pretty much looked like the parts I was replacing. Enable JavaScript by changing your browser options, and then try again. 2009 - 2022 Pool Supplies Canada. I have a filter that is a little larger and it works better. The maximum number of products that can be compared is 4. Posted: 4/22/2022, Claudia L. Duncan If you lose prime now, you have a leak in one of the hoses. Replace lid. This slot is often accessable by simply taking off the end cap of the motor. Posted: 8/4/2014, Ken
Posted: 6/1/2013, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. With the wrench securing the back end of the motor shaft, screw the impeller back onto the shaft (clockwise). Thanks for the response.
Again your pump should maintain prime. Thank you for the GREAT information and video. 231 0 obj <>/Filter/FlateDecode/ID[<27FCA18F46A6ED40BB8CBEE745CBB713>]/Index[208 49]/Info 207 0 R/Length 112/Prev 257310/Root 209 0 R/Size 257/Type/XRef/W[1 3 1]>>stream Posted: 8/27/2012, kfcrandy Seller assumes all responsibility for this listing. Several people have written in saying that the new seal won't fit because they were trying to place the new collar on top of the old one. Posted: 1/4/2013, mckyd68 How could I do this correctly? Posted: 4/21/2022, InyoPools Product Specialist Matt S. Due to possible hand injury, I dont think anyone would recommend trying this procedure. Capacitors store power. Posted: 4/5/2015, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. Take off the two screws that hold the back cover onto the assembly.
Some pumps provide a slot on the end of the shaft to secure with a screwdriver. instructions for how to enable JavaScript in your web browser, Please click here to view our How A Pool Pump Works HTG, Please click here to view our How ToRemove Stubborn Pool Pump Impellers Blog, Please click here to view our How To Replace a Motor Shaft Seal Guide, Please clickhere to our main pump parts page, Please click here to view O Ring Lubricant. Slip the motor assembly back into the housing.
Due to the higher drag, the smaller motor will have trouble spinning the larger impeller. Make sure the plastic strip is in place between the clip and capacitor so that the capacitor does not short out. You may have to use a strap wrench to gently free up the impeller. 256 0 obj <>stream When he responds, I will get back with you. Please refine your selection. You may be trying to force the new collar over the old one.
Next you will have to relieve the pressure that builds up in the pump during operation. Replace the four bolts evenly. Posted: 4/6/2015, Anonymous PhiWc|R!Yg(+{=8p%PB|[o{+`seCoaR*K W/^V'LJ!YerqSdg3E$[]NNJY6l}Zeh;krzvf]NWb^s=Ll5r?/|jO?l5V'hR)T. Purchased new lid and and gasket and replaced them.
Replace if required. endstream endobj 209 0 obj <><><>]/OFF[]/Order[]/RBGroups[]>>/OCGs[233 0 R]>>/Pages 206 0 R/StructTreeRoot 13 0 R/Type/Catalog>> endobj 210 0 obj <>/ExtGState<>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageC/ImageI]/XObject<>>>/Rotate 0/TrimBox[0 0 612 792]/Type/Page>> endobj 211 0 obj <>stream Posted: 6/3/2016, Concretedad Try soaking your filter with a TSP solution to help clean out the fine residue in the creases of the filter.
Put a thin coat of lubrication on the gasket. Does the shaft rotate when you move the impeller?. danny - Look at Step 15 of this guide. Then pulled off putty in sequence to see what connection generated air in the system. Hand tight is sufficient.
Smitty - If this is the first time you have run this motor, it may be configured for the wrong voltage. Separated pump and reinstalled impeller bolt. But if you broke any part of your impeller, you should replace it. Subscribe >, Click here first to search our How To Guides, Shop Children's STEM Toys at JR Toy Company. Recheck the cover lid and O-ring to make sure it is set correctly. This guide explains how to replace a bad pool pump impeller.Please click here to view pump impellers, Claudia L. Duncan
Posted: 8/25/2012, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. Loosely tighten bolts in this sequence, then go back and tighten them down again in this sequence. Posted: 6/10/2013, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. Posted: 5/25/2014, medic1655 However, the impeller cannot be freed from the motor shaft without first securing the motor shaft. The first step in preparing to remove your pump's impeller is to turn off all power to the motor. I'm looking at part 5110-82.
Join our promotional newsletter and be first to know about upcoming sales, special offers and other promotions - no spam, we promise. Then check that the impeller is sound (is not cracked or wobbles) and not clogged. Click here first to search our How To Guides for answers to the most frequently asked questions regarding pool kits, pool equipment and more! Grab the seal on the impeller and twist it off. If you do not see the diffuser or its gasket, check inside the housing. Prime pump by removing strainer lid and filling strainer with water. One bolt just keeps spinning and is not losing up. We dont build the motor, but I believe it is a three phase, induction motor. wayneb56 - I wouldn't think you could prevent a motor from spinning by holding the impeller. If you believe it is a wiring problem, I'd call an electrician. I have watched your excellent video but cannot get the seal on the impeller. Note: Some Hayward pumps have six bolts. However, it seems JavaScript is either disabled or not supported by your browser. First, I'd check to ensure your wiring and voltage settings are correct. Posted: 12/21/2014, Pickles Posted: 8/10/2012, Anonymous Posted: 4/21/2022, InyoPools Product Specialist Matt S. Unscrew the single screw that hold the capacitor in place and push it out of the way. The impeller was on very tightly and in the process of trying to get it off, a part of the outer edge snapped off. After the assembly is out, you should see the diffuser and diffuser gasket on the end of the assembly.
Replace the capacitor on the backside of the assembly. One half on the impeller and the other half in the seal plate on the shaft. Again DO NOT touch the bearing surface of the seal. DO NOT touch the bearing (top) surface of the seal. When turnin the pump on, the motor runs at a slow speed for the first 20 seconds, then it shuts down completely. Click OK to extend your time for an additional 0 minutes. Now add the cleaner and let the hoses float to the top. JavaScript must be enabled in order for you to uses this site. Water will spray out initally as you see the pressure on the pressure gauge go to 0 psi. %PDF-1.7 % To gain access to the end of the motor shaft you will have to remove the capacitor. h;r7O0?\%[$>>[p)IIfg/tcRR]I@j*YXxVMRSWR+t6N4QFUqPJ;CO?}E.;|/O^5c!mrW*vv'g. Have a new housing gasket ready if you have to put this together right away. wayneb56 - Here was the response from the Century motor rep. "On a question like this, you really need to know the whole story. Water enters the center of the impeller. Posted: 4/28/2016, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. For maximum safety turn off the power at the circuit breaker to the motor - usually located next to the timer box. https://hdsupplysolutions.com/ProductDisplay?urlRequestType=Base&catalogId=10054&categoryId=22355&productId=1453348&urlLangId=-1&langId=-1&top_category=&parent_category_rn=&storeId=10051. Sometimes debris will get into the pump and will crack the impeller. Give us a call and we will line you up with a technician at the pump manufacturer. Concretedad - First check to make sure you bought the right replacement shaft seal. Request, California Posted: 4/23/2013, ds1 Could this be the problem and it needs to be replaced? For an expanded explanation of how a pump operates click. Do I have to order the whole diffuser, or can I just order the gasket? Leave feedback about your eBay ViewItem experience, Hayward SPX3026C 3-Horsepower Impeller Replacement for Hayward Super II Pump, - eBay Money Back Guarantee - opens in a new window or tab, - for PayPal Credit, opens in a new window or tab, - eBay Return policy - opens in a new tab or window, - eBay Money Back Guarantee - opens in a new tab or window. I have learned a lot from your page. It is possible to place this seal upside down. Pull the assembly apart from the housing. Hello there!
Your session is about to timeout due to inactivity. I think it's a wiring/voltage problem, beyond the pump. Hooked up my new pump with new impeller, gaskets, etc. Please remove them. It is just like any other profession; we can make mistakes. To relieve pressure turn the relief valve on top of the filter counter clockwise. kfcrandy - The impeller is not your problem unless it is clogged. Impeller moves easy, motor runs quite. It ran great for a few minutes then began to cycle on and off. There is also a loud noise coming from the motor. Any suggestions? Check the pump body for possible cracks. All Prices in Canadian Dollars. hbbd```b``")"""M DjEH ~XD2I`x)%| $m{L@m& /m Posted: 8/10/2012, For a quick introduction, this picture shows the operation of the impeller. If the bolt or socket is stripped, you may have a problem getting it to hold when you reassemble your pump. Any idea what could cause this?
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Any suggestions? Question - should I be able to keep motor from spinning simply by holding onto impeller when i turn it on? Customer Service & Phone Hours of Operation, For Models: SP2600X5, SP2605X7, SP2607X10, SP2607EE(2S), SP2610X15(2S), SP2615X20(2S), SP2621X25. The repair kit for that pump is ", I lost prime on my Hayward Northstar pump. Posted: 2/27/2017, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. Make a note of how the seal is positioned on the impeller so you know how to place the new seal.
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And if your impeller was clogged, you would not have good flow initially. Note: You may have to also have to remove the metal collar if the new shaft seal also has one. I would guess this is a filter issue. You will see the motor wiring and capacitor. Experiencing low pump pressure. HygienePool - That's a long time for an impeller.
Also, you might want to specify what type of lube to use on that gasket (silicon, I believe would work). I do not believe it is the filters one is 6 months old and it does the same thing. Print & Catalog Icons, Replacement 1-1/2 Hp Impeller For The Hayward Super Pump High Performance Pool Pumps, Also Fits Hayward Super Ii Pumps Pre 1987 And Maxflo Pumps And Power Flo Ii Pumps, Impeller Has Threaded Brass Connect To Motor Shaft, Faster service: Remove 4-bolts to access impeller. Posted: 5/24/2014, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. I have a Purex 2hp Whisperflow pump. {"modules":["unloadOptimization","bandwidthDetection"],"unloadOptimization":{"browsers":{"Firefox":true,"Chrome":true}},"bandwidthDetection":{"url":"https://ir.ebaystatic.com/cr/v/c1/thirtysevens.jpg","maxViews":4,"imgSize":37,"expiry":300000,"timeout":250}}. 208 0 obj <> endobj To remove the impeller you will twist the impeller off in a counter clockwise motion. Jerry - If the nick is substantial, I would replace the impeller so it is sound and balanced. Susan - If your diffuser is not damaged, you only need to buy the diffuser gasket, called the. Removed basket and found impeller bolt laying on bottom. If bolts were numbered 1 though 4, replace bolts in this sequence - 1, 3, 2, 4 - to ensure that the motor is set properly inside the housing. Pentair should be able to advise on the actual torque. Posted: 6/2/2016, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. Move to the other end of the motor shaft in the back of the motor assembly. Posted: 2/20/2017, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. didn't try to force it. Try putting some pressure under the head of the bolt with a flat screwdriver as you are turning the bolt. Ken - According to the pump manufacturers, if the oil on your fingertips gets on the ceramic bearing surfaces of the shaft seal, it will cause the surfaces to burn and deteriorate during operation. mckyd68 - Sounds like the bolt is stripped. My pump ran dry due to my pool running low on water and now it has very low pressure, will replacing the impeller be the fix I need to regain the pressure I need to filter the water? Posted: 5/26/2014, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. Also if the threads are worn causing the impeller to wobble on the shaft, replace it. Then check the impeller shaft and seal plate for any wear that would offset your shaft seal. %%EOF Also, the motor cycling on and off could be a sign it is overworking itself; its overheating cuts out, cools off, restarts, and then shuts down when it starts to overheat. *Free shipping valid in Canada Only; Remote areas do not qualify for free shipping. the indents (I guess keeps the seal from spinning) are up towards the ceramic seal and it seems I would have to force the seal passed the lower metal to get to the indents? The spinning action of the impeller when driven by the pump motor generates the water pressure in your pool system. Must be taking on air somewhere. I drained for the winter. I used the parts sold to me by the pool store--I brought the new pump in to show them, so I assume they gave me the right stuff. I was wondering if the impellar could have degraded due the materials that flow through it? If the electrician finds no wiring issues, you need to open the pump to check the part numbers. I replaced the motor last year. the flow starts slowing down about 2 hours after the pump is restarted. The torque will vary, depending upon the speed selected. Posted: 5/26/2015, Jerry Also, check step 15 of this guide to make sure that the shaft seal isn't mounted upside down. Posted: 6/2/2013, dlc Pump sounded like it wasnt generating all the power it normally does (Pentair Superflo VS).
Add the rest of your hoses without attaching the cleaner. I am trying to remove the motor on my Hayward Super pump. Request, Fine Print Make sure the new seal on in the same position noted above. To avoid a possible shock, lay a screwdriver across the two leads to short out the capacitor. the new seal has a metal bottom with a rubber seal inside. I purchased a new above ground pool with a 1 1/2 HP 2Sp pump, last year. Any advice? Posted: 8/11/2014, Susan When you hold the other end of the shaft, it should not be able to move. stuck motor - Most pumps come apart easily.
Motors and impellers have two total horsepower scales, uprate and full rate. *FREE, next-day delivery on most orders to most areas. Then from the impeller side, rotate the impeller COUNTER-CLOCKWISE to screw it off the shaft.
You may have 115V at the breaker box and your pump may be set up for 230V. Do you think it's a bad bearing or a pump seal? Interac Logo Trademark of Interac Inc, Used under Licence.
TY. Hold all of the hoses under water. Posted: 5/25/2015, Iyopools Snap on the diffuser - no screws are required. I ordered and received a Hayward 1 1/2 hp motor and shaft seal for a Hayward pump Model number SP 2810X15. Check your incoming voltage. My Hayward super pump loses its prime when I attach the pool vacuum at the skimmer. If you have not replaced the motor shaft seal and the pump is several years old, this may be a good time to replace this seal.
To extract the motor pump assembly from the pump housing, first remove the four 9/16" bolts that bind the motor pump assembly to the housing.
Unbolted the motor to check the impeller for trash but couldn't pull it apart. Pickles - I am not familiar with this pump but going to a hammer sounds a little extreme and you may end up damaging the pump. One or more part # you entered is invalid. Posted: 6/11/2013, Smitty
What is the useful life of an impellar? Try hitting around the joint with a rubber hammer. Then rotate the impeller. Save $10 on your first order! One owner temporarily packed plumber's putty around each connection to see if that stopped a leak. Best of all, you'll receive a $10 off coupon for use towards your first order of $149+! Keep track of the washers. Check hose connections then take out one hose at a time to try to isolate the leak. But I don't know. I need to call an electrician---. Suggested site content and search history menu, Armstrong 1/25 HP Astro 230SS Circulator Pump, Armstrong 1/6 HP H-32 Circulator Pump, 1/6 HP, Single Phase, 115 Volt, Volute, Armstrong Nonferrous Impeller For H-32 And S-35, Armstrong 1/4 HP S-45 Circulator Pump Less Volute With Viton Seal, Armstrong 4-Spring Cast Iron Pump Coupler, Fits S-25, S-35, H-32 And H-41 Pumps, Carrier SmartComfort Heat Pump Reversing Valve For 1.5 And 2.0 Ton Heat Pumps, Account Change Thanks! Note: Securing the motor shaft on other non-Hayward type pumps varies. But I wouldn't rule out mismatched impeller and motor. loss of prime - If you are truly losing prime to the point that your pump can no longer suck in water - no water flow, you may have a leak in your vacuum hose.
The torque will be more than adequate to overcome the seal drag at the lowest speed setting, with acceptable operating voltage. Finally make sure that your skimmer and strainer baskets are clean. Posted: 8/11/2014, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. If your haven't replaced your motor shaft seal and gaskets, I would also do that. If the diffuser came out with the assembly, pull the diffuser off the assembly. Thank you! & Catalog Icons, Account Change medic 1655 - I have no idea what your three metal gaskets are either??
Then check all your suction connections. Posted: 2/26/2017, wayneb56 With the impeller off you will see the motor shaft seal. My pump will not prime. It's happened to every pool tech who has been working for a while. View cart for details. I have an older pump that is completely metal (brass I think?). Talk to a local hardware store about your options or you may be at the point of buying a whole new pump. The location of the pool pump impeller is shown in this cut-away of a pump. Posted: 1/3/2013, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. See our guide on cleaning out an impeller Also if you have low pressure, you may have developed a suction leak in your pump or in the piping coming into your pump. Posted: 4/23/2013, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. A 1HP and 1.5HP impeller look very similar, and if you're not careful, you could pick up the wrong part.
They have to generate pretty good torque to move the water. Something went wrong. As the impeller is spun by the motor, a series of blades, like a fan, pushes the water to the outside edges of the impeller where it exits through slots to be collected by the diffuser. Ensure that the part of the diffuser labeled "TOP" is aligned with the "TOP" labeled on the seal plate. I believe it is about 16 years old. Place a 7/16" wrench on the flat end of the motor shaft to secure the shaft from rotating. Copyright 1995-2022 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. Great article and many thanks for the closeups. It can corrode the surface. Close the relief valve on top of the filter, after the air is purged and water starts to spray out of the valve. Posted: 5/27/2014, HygienePool Pulled out pump and noticed a nick in one of the impeller bladed. If that checks out, I'd confirm the motor and impeller you are using are matched correctly. I would pull out the motor and check it. If you have an old pump and it hasn't been pulled for a while, it may be corroded shut a little. No need to disconnect the capacitor from its leads. hb```b``c`e`leb@ !0fT,xGGGCZ#Q(f`ddAa;:XXTX8,YI |du700_e ;;.#@ >+
The nick itself would not cause an air leak, but it does indicate that the inside of the pump had some problem like a stone or acorn. endstream endobj startxref The seal looks different than the one I took off. dlc - If your motor is not making excessive noise, it and the impeller are probably not the problem.
Posted: 5/9/2013, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. Posted: 4/22/2022, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. What could the problem be? If the motor shaft does not rotate freely, the bearings are probably bad. Most people replace the motor when the bearings go but they can also be replaced with the right tooling. If there are any cracks or pieces broken off on the impeller, it needs to be replaced. If you used chemicals to clear your water, these chemicals may be clogging your filter. In other cases the threads that hold the impeller to the motor shaft become worn causing the impeller to wobble and rub against the diffuser. ;z7Y~\,z
For instructions on replacing this seal click. ds1 - If you have a leak between the impeller and motor, you probably have a bad motor shaft seal. Posted: 8/2/2014, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. My question is how best do I separate my old leaking shaft seal (and impeller) from its metal bracket/motor mount. I have a call into the motor rep. I'm ordering parts to replace an impeller on its way out for a Hayward Max Flo II, I'm not sure which diffuser gasket to order. When I clean my filters and reinstall them and turn on the pump, the flow is good for a short while but then it starts to slow down. It should snap off easily and expose the impeller. I ended up with 3 metal gaskets that I don't know where they belong and cannot find them on the schematic and still have no prime. Privacy, Fine My keyed shaft CK1102 motor just died and I am replacing it, but a tech at a local pool store tells me that the pump & impeller are still in great shape and do not need replacing. If something is jammed inside, you may have another issue. At the impeller end, twist off the impeller counterclockwise. impeller - I don't know why the impeller is able to spin both ways when you are holding the shaft and keeping it from rotating. Posted: 4/29/2016, danny Your pump should maintain prime. I was wondering if the pump could be losing flow when the back pressure in the filter starts to increase due to problem with the impeller. It sounds like the old metal collar did not come off with the old shaft seal. If you water was dirty and you ran that water through the filter, the filter may need to be cleaned several times to clear the fine debris out of the filter. How would touching the ceramic bearing surfaces corrode them? Posted: 5/10/2013, Anonymous
Posted: 12/18/2014, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R.
Replace cover and secure with two screws. Could this be the problem? I have all new seals ready to go and I've removed the impeller and pump from the dead motor, now I want to ensure I separate these two parts without damaging either. 0 Push the half of the seal that you just removed onto the new impeller. Check the top of the basket cavity to make sure it has not cracked from over tightening. Try prying the motor out gently.
So, if you purchased a 1 HP full rate impeller but installed a 1 HP uprate motor, your motor has a max total HP output of 1.25, and the impeller is a total HP of 1.65. Try disconnecting all hoses except the one coming out of the skimmer. Is it necessary to pry the motor away? If pump has 6 bolts, replace bolts in this sequence - 1, 3, 5, 2, 4, 6. The pump doesn't seam to have the suction power when the vacuum is connected. Replaced my shaft seal but now when I start the pump it tightens up so much on the impeller it locks up. Inspect the diffuser gasket for wear. I would take the motor out of the pump housing per the above instructions. After reinstalling hoses and pipes, there is a leak between the motor and impeller.
And it pretty much looked like the parts I was replacing. Enable JavaScript by changing your browser options, and then try again. 2009 - 2022 Pool Supplies Canada. I have a filter that is a little larger and it works better. The maximum number of products that can be compared is 4. Posted: 4/22/2022, Claudia L. Duncan If you lose prime now, you have a leak in one of the hoses. Replace lid. This slot is often accessable by simply taking off the end cap of the motor. Posted: 8/4/2014, Ken
Posted: 6/1/2013, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. With the wrench securing the back end of the motor shaft, screw the impeller back onto the shaft (clockwise). Thanks for the response.
Again your pump should maintain prime. Thank you for the GREAT information and video. 231 0 obj <>/Filter/FlateDecode/ID[<27FCA18F46A6ED40BB8CBEE745CBB713>]/Index[208 49]/Info 207 0 R/Length 112/Prev 257310/Root 209 0 R/Size 257/Type/XRef/W[1 3 1]>>stream Posted: 8/27/2012, kfcrandy Seller assumes all responsibility for this listing. Several people have written in saying that the new seal won't fit because they were trying to place the new collar on top of the old one. Posted: 1/4/2013, mckyd68 How could I do this correctly? Posted: 4/21/2022, InyoPools Product Specialist Matt S. Due to possible hand injury, I dont think anyone would recommend trying this procedure. Capacitors store power. Posted: 4/5/2015, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. Take off the two screws that hold the back cover onto the assembly.
Some pumps provide a slot on the end of the shaft to secure with a screwdriver. instructions for how to enable JavaScript in your web browser, Please click here to view our How A Pool Pump Works HTG, Please click here to view our How ToRemove Stubborn Pool Pump Impellers Blog, Please click here to view our How To Replace a Motor Shaft Seal Guide, Please clickhere to our main pump parts page, Please click here to view O Ring Lubricant. Slip the motor assembly back into the housing.
Due to the higher drag, the smaller motor will have trouble spinning the larger impeller. Make sure the plastic strip is in place between the clip and capacitor so that the capacitor does not short out. You may have to use a strap wrench to gently free up the impeller. 256 0 obj <>stream When he responds, I will get back with you. Please refine your selection. You may be trying to force the new collar over the old one.
Next you will have to relieve the pressure that builds up in the pump during operation. Replace the four bolts evenly. Posted: 4/6/2015, Anonymous PhiWc|R!Yg(+{=8p%PB|[o{+`seCoaR*K W/^V'LJ!YerqSdg3E$[]NNJY6l}Zeh;krzvf]NWb^s=Ll5r?/|jO?l5V'hR)T. Purchased new lid and and gasket and replaced them.
Replace if required. endstream endobj 209 0 obj <><><>]/OFF[]/Order[]/RBGroups[]>>/OCGs[233 0 R]>>/Pages 206 0 R/StructTreeRoot 13 0 R/Type/Catalog>> endobj 210 0 obj <>/ExtGState<>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageC/ImageI]/XObject<>>>/Rotate 0/TrimBox[0 0 612 792]/Type/Page>> endobj 211 0 obj <>stream Posted: 6/3/2016, Concretedad Try soaking your filter with a TSP solution to help clean out the fine residue in the creases of the filter.
Put a thin coat of lubrication on the gasket. Does the shaft rotate when you move the impeller?. danny - Look at Step 15 of this guide. Then pulled off putty in sequence to see what connection generated air in the system. Hand tight is sufficient.
Smitty - If this is the first time you have run this motor, it may be configured for the wrong voltage. Separated pump and reinstalled impeller bolt. But if you broke any part of your impeller, you should replace it. Subscribe >, Click here first to search our How To Guides, Shop Children's STEM Toys at JR Toy Company. Recheck the cover lid and O-ring to make sure it is set correctly. This guide explains how to replace a bad pool pump impeller.Please click here to view pump impellers, Claudia L. Duncan
Posted: 8/25/2012, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. Loosely tighten bolts in this sequence, then go back and tighten them down again in this sequence. Posted: 6/10/2013, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. Posted: 5/25/2014, medic1655 However, the impeller cannot be freed from the motor shaft without first securing the motor shaft. The first step in preparing to remove your pump's impeller is to turn off all power to the motor. I'm looking at part 5110-82.
Join our promotional newsletter and be first to know about upcoming sales, special offers and other promotions - no spam, we promise. Then check that the impeller is sound (is not cracked or wobbles) and not clogged. Click here first to search our How To Guides for answers to the most frequently asked questions regarding pool kits, pool equipment and more! Grab the seal on the impeller and twist it off. If you do not see the diffuser or its gasket, check inside the housing. Prime pump by removing strainer lid and filling strainer with water. One bolt just keeps spinning and is not losing up. We dont build the motor, but I believe it is a three phase, induction motor. wayneb56 - I wouldn't think you could prevent a motor from spinning by holding the impeller. If you believe it is a wiring problem, I'd call an electrician. I have watched your excellent video but cannot get the seal on the impeller. Note: Some Hayward pumps have six bolts. However, it seems JavaScript is either disabled or not supported by your browser. First, I'd check to ensure your wiring and voltage settings are correct. Posted: 12/21/2014, Pickles Posted: 8/10/2012, Anonymous Posted: 4/21/2022, InyoPools Product Specialist Matt S. Unscrew the single screw that hold the capacitor in place and push it out of the way. The impeller was on very tightly and in the process of trying to get it off, a part of the outer edge snapped off. After the assembly is out, you should see the diffuser and diffuser gasket on the end of the assembly.
Replace the capacitor on the backside of the assembly. One half on the impeller and the other half in the seal plate on the shaft. Again DO NOT touch the bearing surface of the seal. DO NOT touch the bearing (top) surface of the seal. When turnin the pump on, the motor runs at a slow speed for the first 20 seconds, then it shuts down completely. Click OK to extend your time for an additional 0 minutes. Now add the cleaner and let the hoses float to the top. JavaScript must be enabled in order for you to uses this site. Water will spray out initally as you see the pressure on the pressure gauge go to 0 psi. %PDF-1.7 % To gain access to the end of the motor shaft you will have to remove the capacitor. h;r7O0?\%[$>>[p)IIfg/tcRR]I@j*YXxVMRSWR+t6N4QFUqPJ;CO?}E.;|/O^5c!mrW*vv'g. Have a new housing gasket ready if you have to put this together right away. wayneb56 - Here was the response from the Century motor rep. "On a question like this, you really need to know the whole story. Water enters the center of the impeller. Posted: 4/28/2016, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. For maximum safety turn off the power at the circuit breaker to the motor - usually located next to the timer box. https://hdsupplysolutions.com/ProductDisplay?urlRequestType=Base&catalogId=10054&categoryId=22355&productId=1453348&urlLangId=-1&langId=-1&top_category=&parent_category_rn=&storeId=10051. Sometimes debris will get into the pump and will crack the impeller. Give us a call and we will line you up with a technician at the pump manufacturer. Concretedad - First check to make sure you bought the right replacement shaft seal. Request, California Posted: 4/23/2013, ds1 Could this be the problem and it needs to be replaced? For an expanded explanation of how a pump operates click. Do I have to order the whole diffuser, or can I just order the gasket? Leave feedback about your eBay ViewItem experience, Hayward SPX3026C 3-Horsepower Impeller Replacement for Hayward Super II Pump, - eBay Money Back Guarantee - opens in a new window or tab, - for PayPal Credit, opens in a new window or tab, - eBay Return policy - opens in a new tab or window, - eBay Money Back Guarantee - opens in a new tab or window. I have learned a lot from your page. It is possible to place this seal upside down. Pull the assembly apart from the housing. Hello there!
Your session is about to timeout due to inactivity. I think it's a wiring/voltage problem, beyond the pump. Hooked up my new pump with new impeller, gaskets, etc. Please remove them. It is just like any other profession; we can make mistakes. To relieve pressure turn the relief valve on top of the filter counter clockwise. kfcrandy - The impeller is not your problem unless it is clogged. Impeller moves easy, motor runs quite. It ran great for a few minutes then began to cycle on and off. There is also a loud noise coming from the motor. Any suggestions? Check the pump body for possible cracks. All Prices in Canadian Dollars. hbbd```b``")"""M DjEH ~XD2I`x)%| $m{L@m& /m Posted: 8/10/2012, For a quick introduction, this picture shows the operation of the impeller. If the bolt or socket is stripped, you may have a problem getting it to hold when you reassemble your pump. Any idea what could cause this?
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Any suggestions? Question - should I be able to keep motor from spinning simply by holding onto impeller when i turn it on? Customer Service & Phone Hours of Operation, For Models: SP2600X5, SP2605X7, SP2607X10, SP2607EE(2S), SP2610X15(2S), SP2615X20(2S), SP2621X25. The repair kit for that pump is ", I lost prime on my Hayward Northstar pump. Posted: 2/27/2017, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. Make a note of how the seal is positioned on the impeller so you know how to place the new seal.
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And if your impeller was clogged, you would not have good flow initially. Note: You may have to also have to remove the metal collar if the new shaft seal also has one. I would guess this is a filter issue. You will see the motor wiring and capacitor. Experiencing low pump pressure. HygienePool - That's a long time for an impeller.
Also, you might want to specify what type of lube to use on that gasket (silicon, I believe would work). I do not believe it is the filters one is 6 months old and it does the same thing. Print & Catalog Icons, Replacement 1-1/2 Hp Impeller For The Hayward Super Pump High Performance Pool Pumps, Also Fits Hayward Super Ii Pumps Pre 1987 And Maxflo Pumps And Power Flo Ii Pumps, Impeller Has Threaded Brass Connect To Motor Shaft, Faster service: Remove 4-bolts to access impeller. Posted: 5/24/2014, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. I have a Purex 2hp Whisperflow pump. {"modules":["unloadOptimization","bandwidthDetection"],"unloadOptimization":{"browsers":{"Firefox":true,"Chrome":true}},"bandwidthDetection":{"url":"https://ir.ebaystatic.com/cr/v/c1/thirtysevens.jpg","maxViews":4,"imgSize":37,"expiry":300000,"timeout":250}}. 208 0 obj <> endobj To remove the impeller you will twist the impeller off in a counter clockwise motion. Jerry - If the nick is substantial, I would replace the impeller so it is sound and balanced. Susan - If your diffuser is not damaged, you only need to buy the diffuser gasket, called the. Removed basket and found impeller bolt laying on bottom. If bolts were numbered 1 though 4, replace bolts in this sequence - 1, 3, 2, 4 - to ensure that the motor is set properly inside the housing. Pentair should be able to advise on the actual torque. Posted: 6/2/2016, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. Move to the other end of the motor shaft in the back of the motor assembly. Posted: 2/20/2017, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. didn't try to force it. Try putting some pressure under the head of the bolt with a flat screwdriver as you are turning the bolt. Ken - According to the pump manufacturers, if the oil on your fingertips gets on the ceramic bearing surfaces of the shaft seal, it will cause the surfaces to burn and deteriorate during operation. mckyd68 - Sounds like the bolt is stripped. My pump ran dry due to my pool running low on water and now it has very low pressure, will replacing the impeller be the fix I need to regain the pressure I need to filter the water? Posted: 5/26/2014, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. Also if the threads are worn causing the impeller to wobble on the shaft, replace it. Then check the impeller shaft and seal plate for any wear that would offset your shaft seal. %%EOF Also, the motor cycling on and off could be a sign it is overworking itself; its overheating cuts out, cools off, restarts, and then shuts down when it starts to overheat. *Free shipping valid in Canada Only; Remote areas do not qualify for free shipping. the indents (I guess keeps the seal from spinning) are up towards the ceramic seal and it seems I would have to force the seal passed the lower metal to get to the indents? The spinning action of the impeller when driven by the pump motor generates the water pressure in your pool system. Must be taking on air somewhere. I drained for the winter. I used the parts sold to me by the pool store--I brought the new pump in to show them, so I assume they gave me the right stuff. I was wondering if the impellar could have degraded due the materials that flow through it? If the electrician finds no wiring issues, you need to open the pump to check the part numbers. I replaced the motor last year. the flow starts slowing down about 2 hours after the pump is restarted. The torque will vary, depending upon the speed selected. Posted: 5/26/2015, Jerry Also, check step 15 of this guide to make sure that the shaft seal isn't mounted upside down. Posted: 6/2/2013, dlc Pump sounded like it wasnt generating all the power it normally does (Pentair Superflo VS).
Add the rest of your hoses without attaching the cleaner. I am trying to remove the motor on my Hayward Super pump. Request, Fine Print Make sure the new seal on in the same position noted above. To avoid a possible shock, lay a screwdriver across the two leads to short out the capacitor. the new seal has a metal bottom with a rubber seal inside. I purchased a new above ground pool with a 1 1/2 HP 2Sp pump, last year. Any advice? Posted: 8/11/2014, Susan When you hold the other end of the shaft, it should not be able to move. stuck motor - Most pumps come apart easily.
Motors and impellers have two total horsepower scales, uprate and full rate. *FREE, next-day delivery on most orders to most areas. Then from the impeller side, rotate the impeller COUNTER-CLOCKWISE to screw it off the shaft.
You may have 115V at the breaker box and your pump may be set up for 230V. Do you think it's a bad bearing or a pump seal? Interac Logo Trademark of Interac Inc, Used under Licence.
TY. Hold all of the hoses under water. Posted: 5/25/2015, Iyopools Snap on the diffuser - no screws are required. I ordered and received a Hayward 1 1/2 hp motor and shaft seal for a Hayward pump Model number SP 2810X15. Check your incoming voltage. My Hayward super pump loses its prime when I attach the pool vacuum at the skimmer. If you have not replaced the motor shaft seal and the pump is several years old, this may be a good time to replace this seal.
To extract the motor pump assembly from the pump housing, first remove the four 9/16" bolts that bind the motor pump assembly to the housing.
Unbolted the motor to check the impeller for trash but couldn't pull it apart. Pickles - I am not familiar with this pump but going to a hammer sounds a little extreme and you may end up damaging the pump. One or more part # you entered is invalid. Posted: 6/11/2013, Smitty
What is the useful life of an impellar? Try hitting around the joint with a rubber hammer. Then rotate the impeller. Save $10 on your first order! One owner temporarily packed plumber's putty around each connection to see if that stopped a leak. Best of all, you'll receive a $10 off coupon for use towards your first order of $149+! Keep track of the washers. Check hose connections then take out one hose at a time to try to isolate the leak. But I don't know. I need to call an electrician---. Suggested site content and search history menu, Armstrong 1/25 HP Astro 230SS Circulator Pump, Armstrong 1/6 HP H-32 Circulator Pump, 1/6 HP, Single Phase, 115 Volt, Volute, Armstrong Nonferrous Impeller For H-32 And S-35, Armstrong 1/4 HP S-45 Circulator Pump Less Volute With Viton Seal, Armstrong 4-Spring Cast Iron Pump Coupler, Fits S-25, S-35, H-32 And H-41 Pumps, Carrier SmartComfort Heat Pump Reversing Valve For 1.5 And 2.0 Ton Heat Pumps, Account Change Thanks! Note: Securing the motor shaft on other non-Hayward type pumps varies. But I wouldn't rule out mismatched impeller and motor. loss of prime - If you are truly losing prime to the point that your pump can no longer suck in water - no water flow, you may have a leak in your vacuum hose.
The torque will be more than adequate to overcome the seal drag at the lowest speed setting, with acceptable operating voltage. Finally make sure that your skimmer and strainer baskets are clean. Posted: 8/11/2014, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. If your haven't replaced your motor shaft seal and gaskets, I would also do that. If the diffuser came out with the assembly, pull the diffuser off the assembly. Thank you! & Catalog Icons, Account Change medic 1655 - I have no idea what your three metal gaskets are either??
Then check all your suction connections. Posted: 2/26/2017, wayneb56 With the impeller off you will see the motor shaft seal. My pump will not prime. It's happened to every pool tech who has been working for a while. View cart for details. I have an older pump that is completely metal (brass I think?). Talk to a local hardware store about your options or you may be at the point of buying a whole new pump. The location of the pool pump impeller is shown in this cut-away of a pump. Posted: 1/3/2013, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. See our guide on cleaning out an impeller Also if you have low pressure, you may have developed a suction leak in your pump or in the piping coming into your pump. Posted: 4/23/2013, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. A 1HP and 1.5HP impeller look very similar, and if you're not careful, you could pick up the wrong part.
They have to generate pretty good torque to move the water. Something went wrong. As the impeller is spun by the motor, a series of blades, like a fan, pushes the water to the outside edges of the impeller where it exits through slots to be collected by the diffuser. Ensure that the part of the diffuser labeled "TOP" is aligned with the "TOP" labeled on the seal plate. I believe it is about 16 years old. Place a 7/16" wrench on the flat end of the motor shaft to secure the shaft from rotating. Copyright 1995-2022 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. Great article and many thanks for the closeups. It can corrode the surface. Close the relief valve on top of the filter, after the air is purged and water starts to spray out of the valve. Posted: 5/27/2014, HygienePool Pulled out pump and noticed a nick in one of the impeller bladed. If that checks out, I'd confirm the motor and impeller you are using are matched correctly. I would pull out the motor and check it. If you have an old pump and it hasn't been pulled for a while, it may be corroded shut a little. No need to disconnect the capacitor from its leads. hb```b``c`e`leb@ !0fT,xGGGCZ#Q(f`ddAa;:XXTX8,YI |du700_e ;;.#@ >+
The nick itself would not cause an air leak, but it does indicate that the inside of the pump had some problem like a stone or acorn. endstream endobj startxref The seal looks different than the one I took off. dlc - If your motor is not making excessive noise, it and the impeller are probably not the problem.
Posted: 5/9/2013, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. Posted: 4/22/2022, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. What could the problem be? If the motor shaft does not rotate freely, the bearings are probably bad. Most people replace the motor when the bearings go but they can also be replaced with the right tooling. If there are any cracks or pieces broken off on the impeller, it needs to be replaced. If you used chemicals to clear your water, these chemicals may be clogging your filter. In other cases the threads that hold the impeller to the motor shaft become worn causing the impeller to wobble and rub against the diffuser. ;z7Y~\,z