Decibel X: 52.7 average For filters, consider Wynn Environmental. For storage, I tucked under a work bench in the corner. Some folks are even rigging them up to the filters for Semis. Honestly, I'd just cart the DC out with your other tools. Need a break from all the standing and wood dust? Thanks Bill W, StevenN, Shampeon, WoodDreams, Ill check on the coupon before I buy, and TVgeek,Thats all great information. Suction is great, way more than many single tools need, but that bag is like a sieve. It would look a lot like the pics below, just a less expensive vac unit.
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Canvas bag is not a duct collector. This system easily handles a tablesaw, planer, jointer & bandsaw. My router runs at 64db and the shop vac is 67db. https://www.amazon.com/Napa-6637-Gold-Air-Filter/dp/B00K24KSDS/ref=pd_sbs_328_1/141-4886102-5127014?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00K24KSDS&pd_rd_r=f8eb463d-dbe9-4f2d-84d4-e427308030a2&pd_rd_w=f5XYs&pd_rd_wg=Pq238&pf_rd_p=7cd8f929-4345-4bf2-a554-7d7588b3dd5f&pf_rd_r=JAH6KNTCWGGKSSYY99AP&psc=1&refRID=JAH6KNTCWGGKSSYY99AP. I just wish every time I saw 4 OD, or ID that it truly was 4, same for 5 6 all of these makers have goofy rulers, so its a constant battle to make anything fit. Any idea what amperage that 2hp HF unit pulls? The Rockler would need a reducer from 5 to 4 the one for the Semi above has a 4 attachment, so it should go on pretty straight away. I was able to get a 4" suck-it compatible boot printed (thanks to @MadHatter for posting his awesome design!) Keep in mind the HF 2HP dust collector is a different machine than a shop vac. It is not safe for enclosed spaces. Has anyone used this DC in their shop and can show me examples of their setup? Id also strongly consider the Rikon Impeller, (Just call them and get on the list, mine took 60 days from order to delivery and they sell these by the truckload to HF users Id expect it to take longer in the days of the Coronavirus) if you are not going to put the collector right next to the machine IF your electrical system can handle it for the run to the Shapeoko use 4" hose for as much of the run as possible and use as little 2.5" hose as possible going to the dust boot, dont even try to use 1.5" hose, I have done a bunch of testing with what I own, a decent anemometer, a Dylos particle counter (I have allergies and asthma so its a purchase that made sense to me) a couple shop vacs, a Festool CT36 and an upgraded HF dust collector Im not digging out my old spreadsheet I used for all my testing/notes but Ill say that you can definitely make a HF collector work well for a small shop and have it do a good job keeping the air in your shop safe to breathe its just going to cost a lot more than $200 The Festool is fantastic but expensive (to buy and own, the bags are expensive too) and a shop vac is adequate if you can use it in a space where fine dust doesnt matter (garage) and you can wear a respirator if you can afford a particle counter get one! The Computer-Aided Design ("CAD") files and all associated content posted to this website are created, uploaded, managed and owned by third-party users. On the older one I have the out is exactly a 4 outside diameter. Or go to Rockler, and they have a ready to use filter, kinda costy, but it even comes with a clean out crank. I have a CV06 MINI SYSTEM from clearvue. Ive had one for several years. Sadly, I dont have a real DB meter to compare them with. A cyclone in front of the dust collector to collect the big stuff. Manage Consent. @MadHatter They want 5+ weeks for delivery though! I just cant figure out which one to go for, I keep coming back to the Dremel 3D45 but it is so old!
The hardware and software is continuously being updated and improved. Advice? Plus you are often looking for 4 at Outside diameter OD, and their 4 is measured inside ID, so depending on wall thickness, it can be a little different, or a lot. So at least they are close when it gets loud! With PLA you can get a kind of sweet smell occasionally, but nothing bad. frustrations? Look up the specification for airflow on your various tools before you buy the wrong size and find you have to buy it again. You need a coupon specifically for the Central Machine product. I could try find a coupon and get the price down. If you are a carver or want Intarsia, fretwork, intricate design cutting and more! They are also not really capable of picking heavy objects up off the floor, eg, nuts and bolts. Does a 3D printer fume out the house? Finally something I can comment on intelligently here, Between my Shapeoko and my Drum Sander my HF dust collector has plenty of power to manage the dust output I generate because I have taken the time and spent the money to set it up correctly but out of the box it was downright dangerous If I were to do it over, Id really strongly be looking at a Laguna HEPA unit but those are $$$ Something to really consider is that the dust from Sanders and Routers is very bad news, you cant see the stuff that actually hurts you, you just feel it a few hours later after the damage is done The dust you can actually see is just the canary in the coal mine saying GET OUT. These are great budget hold me overs but please for your own sake wear a respirator when using them. That adds up to probably the best DC bang/buck you can purchase. Definitely invest in a Dust Deputy of make a mini Thien Baffle for a 5 Gallon Bucket, once a Shop Vacs filter is clogged the performance starts to dramatically drop off. Does anyone have the Harbor Freight 45378, 2 HP, (Sears HP! Once you've got that, you can take a look HERE to see how you can substantially improve the chip separation, and replace the 5 micron bag HF sells with a .5 micron bag- what you really should be filtering with. Ive owned 4 Prusa printers (MkII, MkIIs, Mk3 and Mk3s) and still own the two Mk3 printers. Latest Forum Topics. They are usually HEPA rated and have adjustable suction but the filters are expensive, while you can use an extractor like a shop vac youll quickly find out that the bags are expensive as well. I used 4 smooth plastic drain pipe for most of the ducting.
I have an app on my iPhone called NIOSH SLM. The ambient noise from the dust collector is much more quiet than the two Festool Dust Extractors we were running and has much less of a heat load. I have had a two instances where something didnt seal right and my dust collector was pumping dust out into the air unfiltered and the Dylos alerted me to what was going on within seconds, Dust Collector - LPHV - Low Pressure, High Volume - They move a ton of material but compared to their volume they dont output much static pressure, they really dont do well when constricted (eg long 2.5" runs) which is why people running a dust collector use PVC piping for the majority of their runs and use the shortest amount of flex hose possible. If you don't receive the email within an hour (and you've checked your Spam folder), email us as confirmation@grabcad.com. A little off is doable, a lot off can be tricky. Which ever wall mount Dust Collection I decide on Ill be building a doggie door in the rear door of my small shop and place the DC outside and run the 4 hose through the doggie door to a dedicated tool. DISCLAIMER: Any posts on LJ are posted by individuals acting in their own right and do not necessarily reflect the views of LJ. 2022 Verticalscope Inc. All Rights Reserved. a properly set up dust extractor will keep the air relatively safe to breathe. In a woodshop where you are using it on larger pieces of equipment such as a planer or jointer or multiple tools being used simultaneously it can make sense. Spend the extra few bucks for the 2hp. This forum is for all the woodturners out there. I do plan on installing a Dust Deputy Bagger or something similar to help make emptying the dust bag easier. The email with your password reset link has been sent. Actually cutting material, hard wood, at 24" Latest Blog Entries | I ordered a 4 inch hose and 4 inch Dust Deputy, I will keep the HF and try to find an appropriate use for it. The Dremel has a fan with carbon filter and enclosure. Those numbers may be slightly off. But it's money better spent. I watched a YouTube video that showed how you can stop the leaks by removing the covers and caulking around the inside of the parts and then replacing them to increase the suction. Dont be mistaken that low pressure means no pressure A Dust Collector is more than capable of collapsing thin walled steel duct pipe or in some cases even steel drums! It has less static pressure than a shop vac. Get a good bag and buy the extended warranty. ), dustcollector? A very good write up by Dustin if you are looking at the HF option. This forum is for scrollsawers: share your tips, ask questions Have a question? The HF 70 gallon 2hp, or a set up like what therealSteveN shows, would be easier to empty out the dust bag. I've recently come to the conclusion that my shop-vac just wasn't, Best of all would be to exhaust it outside! PETG doesnt have any smell I have noticed. I recently sold my house and had to put my CNC in storage until I get moved, but when I emptied the 5 gallon bucket the Dust Deputy was on the thing was nearly full of super fine dust. I am still struggling with my closet housed shopvac dust collection system - it constantly clogs and is just not powerful enough to catch dust. Sound Meter: 68.8 average Ill try them both again later this afternoon with the router and vacuum system running and will report that result. So worth it over the 1HP unit. I live very close to Harbor Freight. Figure all in you are looking at something like $300 with the hoses you want (Bosch makes a really great shop vac hose that is available on Amazon for those looking) Shop Vacs have their place, its just for cleaning up saw dust and nails, not for collecting fine dust, Dust Extractor - Festool, Fein, Bosch - Souped up Shop Vacs, that are MUCH quieter and specifically designed to handle fine dust from things like routers and sanders and track saws. You can only pull so many CFM thru that small hose. On a side note. Otherwise, just use a leaf vac when you are done to blow it all out the door. Latest Projects | Lots of options, but for a single tool, except a wide drum sander maybe, it should work. Just one hose to one machine? I wouldnt run a DC without a 4" compatible dust boot as you will lose all benefit to using it over a vacuum or dust extractor. The TLDR; is if you are going the HF route, buy a Wynn Environmental Canister Filter and make/buy some sort of separator like a Thien Baffle or Cyclone to reduce the fines that actually make it to the filter (or you will be constantly cleaning the filter which is a royal PITA). Notice all the blast gates come off of 45 adapters into the 4" ducting. 2x the price though. Thats a substantial difference! So I need some help on setting this up and what to buy? NO 90 turns as air does not make right turns. That is no longer an issue and I rarely ever have to clean off my machine now. I recently got a proper tablesaw which is great but it just creates a lot of saw dust and clogs up the shopvac hoses. Sound meter: 91.3 average They offer very good MERV15 filter kits. I think you need 2 things: The fiber drum has a Thein baffle and you can clearly see the Wynn Enviromental filter. Roll it to the tools. Looking around a I am thinking of getting this http://www.harborfreight.com/13-gallon-industrial-portable-dust-collector-31810.html and mounting it in one of the useless closets and running ducting around the garage with hookups for the various tools (Tablesaw, mitresaw, planner, router). I will be taking it in after work. The Harbor Freight units are actually 1.5 HP The 2 HP claim is just marketing hype. That's vanity.". The finish, whether paint, wax, stain, or something else, can make or break a project. Share your tips and challenges Before you pick up those woodworking tools, take the time to ensure your safety in the shop! | Privacy Policy 1 HP Industrial Portable Dust Collector, The primary issue of putting the DC up there is that it will make emptying the bag a giant hassle. There is alot of info on dust collection, duct size, airflow, et available to research. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, Rigid Shop Vac Vs. Harbor Freight Dust Collector. I used to run a rigid vacuum to a 2" opening dust boot and I found myself cleaning up a lot more fine dust on the machine because if it made it past the brushes on the dust boot there was not enough airflow or suction to pull it back in. Go to Wynn Environmental and get a pleated filter for it, and it would be workable. Decibel X: 83 average This does not prevent them working quite well if used with appropriate separators, ducting and upgraded filters as stated by others. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Right now I rent a house with a two car garage which is very badly laid out (huge built in closets which are completely useless and just take up way too much space) and is also our laundry room, storage room for overspend in costco and general dumping ground for everything else (also it's my office when I work from home). I have one and I can verify they work with a 20 Amp circuit. I reused the turnbuckles, cut a circle out of plywood for the top of the filter, used some door seal, and attached the turnbuckles to the plywood top. Design the system. HF frequently puts the Dust Collectors on sale with super coupons specific for the HF dust collectors (thru email promotions, catalogs or in different woodworking mags). Sound Meter: 90 average You dont get any bad smells unless you are printing ABS or ASA filament. what about the 2HP from HB? | Copyright Share your "joinery" discussion here. Decibel X: 91 average It came with a little muffler attachment and I added a Dust Deputy between the vac and my Sockit Dust Boot. | Using a jig is like having a couple extra hands helping out. Decibel X: 52.7 average I tried a half dozen and found Sound Meter works the best. You can wall mount it, and roll the tools to it, or put it on a rolling base, and hang it. In addition to the Thein baffle and Wynn Environmental filter pay attention to your ducting length and any corners. Your woodworking skills are displayed for several lifetimes in each project. I just bought the 2hp unit, was on sale for 209 and I used the 20% coupon which brought it down to 169 or so. Ive had Decibel X for iPhone installed for quite some time now, but curious about Sound Meter. It is a separator for big chips and a redistributor of the fine ( the stuff that kills you) dust. https://www.rockler.com/rockler-dust-right-canister-filter-for-wall-mount-dust-collector. Seems like all their current 20% off coupons are no longer good for the Central Machinery brand. I have their 2hp unit like this one and plumbed 4" pvc around my basement and it's awesome. How to fix a messed up table-top panel. I live in Southern California where rain is rare. So I need to build something better. I think they are out of stock unfortunately. the screens are designed to protect the fan from being damaged if you sucked up wood chunks.
Dust Collectors like the HF unit are plenty adequate for a small shop but thing of it along the lines of buying an engine for a car you have to build, sure its $200 now but by they time you add a Wynn Filter ($200) a Super Dust Deputy ($200), Rikon Impeller ($120 shipped) and all the stuff you need to make it work: Blast Gates $15-20/ea, flex hose $50-100, DWV pipe/fittings (~$100) the costs really start to add up.